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		<title>By: FVP Admin</title>
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		<description>We are not privy to whether FVP applied or didn&#039;t apply. All we can clearly see is that FVP is not listed as a member of the DSAP.

Please note that there are other network marketing companies which claim they are members of the DSAP, yet are not listed in the online directory of the DSAP.

Kindly review the companies listed in the DSAP directory, and get feedback from those who have joined those companies to give you a better idea of how exactly a DSAP membership strengthens an MLM company&#039;s position.

&lt;strong&gt;Is the DSAP a government body?&lt;/strong&gt;

Let&#039;s see what the DSAP says in their &quot;About Us&quot; page:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The Direct Selling Association of the Philippines started in the late 1970&#039;s with only 7 companies composed of Encyclopedia Brittanica Phils., Grolier International, Inc., Felta Book Sales, Mondragon Industries, Time Life Books, Avon Cosmetics, Inc., and Phoenix Educational Systems, Inc.

In 1983, it was officially registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Among the incorporators were Consolacion Rogacion, Jose Mari Franco, Jose Antonio Gonzales, Delfin Campos Jr., Emmanuel Sibal, Felicito Abiva, and Macario Borromeo.

...

Currently, the DSAP has a total membership base of 26 companies with more than 2 million direct sellers and network marketers nationwide. The associations (sic) main thrust at present is to create more awareness about the endless opportunities present in the industry, promote entrepreneurship, and enhance the image of direct selling.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From the DSAP website we can read that they&#039;re not calling themselves a government body, and neither are they confirming the legality of MLM companies.

We also read the following in the DSAP website:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
In the early 90s, DSAP established a close working relationship with the Department of Trade and Industry. It has participated in the deliberation and hearings for the Consumer Code, assisted in the drafting of the Administrative Order No. 8 regarding pyramiding, organized the Tri-sectoral Conference and Asia Paciifc Economic Cooperation Consumer Education and Protection Initiative (APEC-CEPI) together with the Philippine Marketing Association (PMA) and World Federation of Direct Selling Associations (WFDSA), offered support by reviewing and evaluating the compensation plans of other direct selling companies, and carried out the joint Anti-pyramiding Education Campaign.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;What does it take to become a member of the DSAP?&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The requirements of Ordinary membership are as follows: 

(a.)That the applicant has a capitalization of not less than P2,500,000 or that the Annual Sales Volume is not less than P10,000,000.

(b.)That the applicant has been established in the Philippines or elsewhere for a period of not less than one year.

(c.)That the merchandise or service distributed by the applicant is of merchantable quality.

(d.)That the applicant is involved in ethical sales practices.

(e.)To abide by the Constitution and Code of Ethics.

Notwithstanding the above, any member shall have the right to object to the admission of any applicant for membership with the Association on the ground(s) that the applicant, though complying with the requirements set forth, can produce additional reasons and/or evidence to substantiate that the admission of the applicant may be contrary to the furtherance of the objectives of the Association.

The requirements of Associate membership are as follows:

(a.)That the applicant has a capitalization of not less than P250,000 or that the Annual Sales Volume is not less than P2,500,000.

(b.)That the applicant has been established in the Philippines or elsewhere for a period of not less than one year.

(c.)That the merchandise or service distributed by the applicant is of merchantable quality.

(d.)That the applicant is involved in ethical sales practices.

(e.)To abide by the Constitution and Code of Ethics.

Notwithstanding the above, any member shall have the right to object to admission of any applicant for membership with the Association on the ground(s) that the applicant, though complying with requirements as set forth, can produce additional reasons and/or evidence to substantiate that the admission of the applicant may be contrary to the furtherance of the objectives of the Association.

REQUIREMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED TOGETHER WITH THE APPLICATION FORM

I.   Articles of Incorporation/ Memorandum of Association
II.  Audited Statement of Accounts for the past 2 years
III. Details of Directors of Company
IV.  Sales and Marketing Plans/Compensation Plans/Sales Contract
V.   Dealer/Distributor/Salesman Agreement(s)/Contract(s)
VI.  List of Products, Product Description, Warranty/Guarantee Cards, Catalogs, etc.
VII. Organizational Chart of your sales force
VIII. ONE set only-Starter Kit, inclusive of contents (if any)

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We hope the above helps present a clearer understanding of what a DSAP membership means.

If FVP were a non-legal company, shouldn&#039;t it have been shutdown by now? Especially given the fact that so many people talk about First Vita Plus on the internet.

It&#039;s not exactly a low profile company, and since it is easy for people to run to Media or to blog about any fraudulent experiences with any company, how can we automatically assume that non-members of DSAP are illegal?

&lt;strong&gt;Jack, if FVP gets listed in the DSAP Membership Directory, will you join FVP?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not privy to whether FVP applied or didn&#8217;t apply. All we can clearly see is that FVP is not listed as a member of the DSAP.</p>
<p>Please note that there are other network marketing companies which claim they are members of the DSAP, yet are not listed in the online directory of the DSAP.</p>
<p>Kindly review the companies listed in the DSAP directory, and get feedback from those who have joined those companies to give you a better idea of how exactly a DSAP membership strengthens an MLM company&#8217;s position.</p>
<p><strong>Is the DSAP a government body?</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what the DSAP says in their &#8220;About Us&#8221; page:</p>
<blockquote><p>
The Direct Selling Association of the Philippines started in the late 1970&#8217;s with only 7 companies composed of Encyclopedia Brittanica Phils., Grolier International, Inc., Felta Book Sales, Mondragon Industries, Time Life Books, Avon Cosmetics, Inc., and Phoenix Educational Systems, Inc.</p>
<p>In 1983, it was officially registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Among the incorporators were Consolacion Rogacion, Jose Mari Franco, Jose Antonio Gonzales, Delfin Campos Jr., Emmanuel Sibal, Felicito Abiva, and Macario Borromeo.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Currently, the DSAP has a total membership base of 26 companies with more than 2 million direct sellers and network marketers nationwide. The associations (sic) main thrust at present is to create more awareness about the endless opportunities present in the industry, promote entrepreneurship, and enhance the image of direct selling.
</p></blockquote>
<p>From the DSAP website we can read that they&#8217;re not calling themselves a government body, and neither are they confirming the legality of MLM companies.</p>
<p>We also read the following in the DSAP website:</p>
<blockquote><p>
In the early 90s, DSAP established a close working relationship with the Department of Trade and Industry. It has participated in the deliberation and hearings for the Consumer Code, assisted in the drafting of the Administrative Order No. 8 regarding pyramiding, organized the Tri-sectoral Conference and Asia Paciifc Economic Cooperation Consumer Education and Protection Initiative (APEC-CEPI) together with the Philippine Marketing Association (PMA) and World Federation of Direct Selling Associations (WFDSA), offered support by reviewing and evaluating the compensation plans of other direct selling companies, and carried out the joint Anti-pyramiding Education Campaign.
</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>What does it take to become a member of the DSAP?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>
The requirements of Ordinary membership are as follows: </p>
<p>(a.)That the applicant has a capitalization of not less than P2,500,000 or that the Annual Sales Volume is not less than P10,000,000.</p>
<p>(b.)That the applicant has been established in the Philippines or elsewhere for a period of not less than one year.</p>
<p>(c.)That the merchandise or service distributed by the applicant is of merchantable quality.</p>
<p>(d.)That the applicant is involved in ethical sales practices.</p>
<p>(e.)To abide by the Constitution and Code of Ethics.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding the above, any member shall have the right to object to the admission of any applicant for membership with the Association on the ground(s) that the applicant, though complying with the requirements set forth, can produce additional reasons and/or evidence to substantiate that the admission of the applicant may be contrary to the furtherance of the objectives of the Association.</p>
<p>The requirements of Associate membership are as follows:</p>
<p>(a.)That the applicant has a capitalization of not less than P250,000 or that the Annual Sales Volume is not less than P2,500,000.</p>
<p>(b.)That the applicant has been established in the Philippines or elsewhere for a period of not less than one year.</p>
<p>(c.)That the merchandise or service distributed by the applicant is of merchantable quality.</p>
<p>(d.)That the applicant is involved in ethical sales practices.</p>
<p>(e.)To abide by the Constitution and Code of Ethics.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding the above, any member shall have the right to object to admission of any applicant for membership with the Association on the ground(s) that the applicant, though complying with requirements as set forth, can produce additional reasons and/or evidence to substantiate that the admission of the applicant may be contrary to the furtherance of the objectives of the Association.</p>
<p>REQUIREMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED TOGETHER WITH THE APPLICATION FORM</p>
<p>I.   Articles of Incorporation/ Memorandum of Association<br />
II.  Audited Statement of Accounts for the past 2 years<br />
III. Details of Directors of Company<br />
IV.  Sales and Marketing Plans/Compensation Plans/Sales Contract<br />
V.   Dealer/Distributor/Salesman Agreement(s)/Contract(s)<br />
VI.  List of Products, Product Description, Warranty/Guarantee Cards, Catalogs, etc.<br />
VII. Organizational Chart of your sales force<br />
VIII. ONE set only-Starter Kit, inclusive of contents (if any)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>We hope the above helps present a clearer understanding of what a DSAP membership means.</p>
<p>If FVP were a non-legal company, shouldn&#8217;t it have been shutdown by now? Especially given the fact that so many people talk about First Vita Plus on the internet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not exactly a low profile company, and since it is easy for people to run to Media or to blog about any fraudulent experiences with any company, how can we automatically assume that non-members of DSAP are illegal?</p>
<p><strong>Jack, if FVP gets listed in the DSAP Membership Directory, will you join FVP?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read from an internet MLM source website and I quote

&lt;blockquote&gt;Direct Selling Association of the Philippines or DSAP is the government body that are responsible for confirming the legality of a certain MLM company. You can view the offical list of all MLM companies that is member of DSAP at http://dsap.ph/directory.html
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why FVP didn’t apply for DSAP membership? Does it mean FVP is not legal? Better apply and be registered to strenthen company’s position with regards to legality issues and erase the doubts of natural skeptics like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read from an internet MLM source website and I quote</p>
<blockquote><p>Direct Selling Association of the Philippines or DSAP is the government body that are responsible for confirming the legality of a certain MLM company. You can view the offical list of all MLM companies that is member of DSAP at <a href="http://dsap.ph/directory.html" rel="nofollow">http://dsap.ph/directory.html</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Why FVP didn’t apply for DSAP membership? Does it mean FVP is not legal? Better apply and be registered to strenthen company’s position with regards to legality issues and erase the doubts of natural skeptics like me.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i posted yesterday a comment but i can not see it posted/published. . .
anyway, my inquiry is: WHY IS FVP NOT REGISTERED FOR MEMBERSHIP IN DSAP (DIRECT SELLING ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILIPPINES) UNLIKE OTHER MLM BUSINESSES SUCH AS AVON, AMWAY, DXN, ETC.? 
Please respond so i can eliminate the trace of doubt in my mind regarding FVP.
Thanks!

[From FVPInfoAdmin] Perhaps FVP didn&#039;t apply for membership in the DSAP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i posted yesterday a comment but i can not see it posted/published. . .<br />
anyway, my inquiry is: WHY IS FVP NOT REGISTERED FOR MEMBERSHIP IN DSAP (DIRECT SELLING ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILIPPINES) UNLIKE OTHER MLM BUSINESSES SUCH AS AVON, AMWAY, DXN, ETC.?<br />
Please respond so i can eliminate the trace of doubt in my mind regarding FVP.<br />
Thanks!</p>
<p>[From FVPInfoAdmin] Perhaps FVP didn&#8217;t apply for membership in the DSAP?</p>
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		<title>By: jun</title>
		<link>http://www.firstvitaplusinfo.com/is-fvp-a-pyramiding-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 00:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my tanong ako ang misis ko ay ng dealer dito sa bulacan bumibili sila sa halagang 750 at may nakita ako dito sa sta maria bulacan na nagbebenta ng halaga lamang na 450 bat nagkaganon diba mali yon

[From the FVPInfo Admin] Paki-report po sa Head Office. Mas maganda kung makakuha kayo ng resibo para may prueba, at gagamitin yun ng Head Office para magsampa ng reklamo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my tanong ako ang misis ko ay ng dealer dito sa bulacan bumibili sila sa halagang 750 at may nakita ako dito sa sta maria bulacan na nagbebenta ng halaga lamang na 450 bat nagkaganon diba mali yon</p>
<p>[From the FVPInfo Admin] Paki-report po sa Head Office. Mas maganda kung makakuha kayo ng resibo para may prueba, at gagamitin yun ng Head Office para magsampa ng reklamo.</p>
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		<title>By: KonSingkit</title>
		<link>http://www.firstvitaplusinfo.com/is-fvp-a-pyramiding-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>KonSingkit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caveat Emptor....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caveat Emptor&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before First Vita Plus became what it is today, it is First Quadrant before. An MLM company that sells Marikina made products. They&#039;ve been in a controversy of pyramiding. The binary system itself does not have any fault or is illegal. It is the twisted mind of dealers that made it look like a pyramiding scam. First Vita Plus is just around for 5 years yet last January they celebrated 8 years of their success. Why is that? It&#039;s because, the first 3 years of the company is First Quadrant. If First Vita Plus is a pyramiding scam, it will not be featured to national television programs like Kabuhayang Swak na Swak and Rated K. Even Ms. Doyee Tactacan Tumpalan, President of First Vita Plus, was included in Go Negosyo together with Philippines&#039; best entrepreneurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before First Vita Plus became what it is today, it is First Quadrant before. An MLM company that sells Marikina made products. They&#8217;ve been in a controversy of pyramiding. The binary system itself does not have any fault or is illegal. It is the twisted mind of dealers that made it look like a pyramiding scam. First Vita Plus is just around for 5 years yet last January they celebrated 8 years of their success. Why is that? It&#8217;s because, the first 3 years of the company is First Quadrant. If First Vita Plus is a pyramiding scam, it will not be featured to national television programs like Kabuhayang Swak na Swak and Rated K. Even Ms. Doyee Tactacan Tumpalan, President of First Vita Plus, was included in Go Negosyo together with Philippines&#8217; best entrepreneurs.</p>
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